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 ====== 1935 Harley VL – Engine Oiling & Crankcase Breathing System ======
 Article by Kurt C Melancon ((Rev 10.30.25)) \\
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 The author created this document to record observations made on the subject systems during the disassembly of a 1935 Harley VLD. This document does not address the oil pump and its adjustments since those subjects are not relevant to the routing of oil within the engine or the crankcase breather system. Because changes occurred continuously in these systems over the 7 years of VL production (1930-1936), the information provided herein is limited solely to the 1935 VL model, thus the functions described herein may not be applicable across all model years. \\
-Without a schematic of flow within the entire system, i.e., the flow of oil and air within the engine, it may be challenging for the reader to follow solely a written description.  Bearing that in mind, the oiling/breathing system will be presented via labeled images with accompanying written descriptions that delve into more detail. \\
+Without a schematic of flow within the entire system, i.e., the flow of oil and air within the engine, it may be challenging for the reader to follow solely a written description. Bearing that in mind, the oiling/breathing system will be presented via labeled images with accompanying written descriptions that delve into more detail. \\
 ====== Background and General Overview ======
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 The other component required to deliver oil to the engine is a hand pump on the oil tank that feeds oil directly into the top of the left crankcase and is the primary means of lubricating the bottom end and pistons. \\
-As quoted below, the standard procedure for lubricating a VL engine in regular service was provided in the 1934-1936 Rider’s Handbook.
+As quoted below, the standard procedure for lubricating a VL engine in regular service was provided in the 1934-1936 Rider’s Handbook. \\
+<blockquote>//**Draining and Flushing Crank Case** \\
-__Draining and Flushing Crank Case__ \\
+Drain and flush the crank case, and give it a supply of fresh oil at least every 750 miles. Do this while the motor is hot. To drain oil from crank case, press downward on drain valve rod at base of rear cylinder on left side of motor, and turn lever on top end until it catches under bracket attached to cylinder base as shown in Illus. 3. After draining off the old oil, close drain and inject about 4 pumpfuls of fresh oil into crankcase with hand oil pump. Start motor and run for one or two minutes ; then drain again. This will flush all the old oil out of case. Close drain, inject 3-1/2 pumpfuls of oil into case, and motor is again ready for service.// \\</blockquote>
-Drain and flush the crank case, and give it a supply of fresh oil at least every 750 miles. Do this while the motor is hot.  To drain oil from crank case, press downward on drain valve rod at base of rear cylinder on left side of motor, and turn lever on top end until it catches under bracket attached to cylinder base as shown in Illus. 3.  After draining off the old oil, close drain and inject about 4 pumpfuls of fresh oil into crankcase with hand oil pump. Start motor and run for one or two minutes ; then drain again.  This will flush all the old oil out of case.  Close drain, inject 3-1/2  pumpfuls of oil into case, and motor is again ready for service. \\
 Modern riders report that the 3-1/2 pumpful recommendation is ~ 4 oz of oil. The subject Handbook also informs about the expected oil consumption rate and special operating conditions, as follows. \\
-Normal oil consumption depends entirely on driving speed.  A motorcycle driven at low speeds the majority of the time may run 1000 miles per gallon while one driven considerably at high speeds may run only 400 miles or less.  The average is about 700 miles per gallon. \\
+Normal oil consumption depends entirely on driving speed. A motorcycle driven at low speeds the majority of the time may run 1000 miles per gallon while one driven considerably at high speeds may run only 400 miles or less. The average is about 700 miles per gallon. \\
 It should not be necessary to supply motor with extra oil with hand pump for a normal amount of high-speed running ; however, as a safety factor, when running at high speed for a long distance, it is advisable to supply a little extra oil with hand pump - about 1/2 pumpful every two miles. \\
-The ~ 4 oz of oil delivered to the engine via the hand pump is the primary means of lubricating the engine.  The mechanical oil pump is more akin to a controlled bleed, intended to supply only the amount of oil lost via oil passing the piston rings, oil blown out via crankcase blowdown, and the mechanical pump output that lubricates the primary chain.  If this were not the case, and the pump supplied oil amounts greater than those leaving the engine via the above-described routes, the engine would overfill with oil and overheat due to excess shearing of the oil by the crankshaft.  \\
+The ~ 4 oz of oil delivered to the engine via the hand pump is the primary means of lubricating the engine. The mechanical oil pump is more akin to a controlled bleed, intended to supply only the amount of oil lost via oil passing the piston rings, oil blown out via crankcase blowdown, and the mechanical pump output that lubricates the primary chain. If this were not the case, and the pump supplied oil amounts greater than those leaving the engine via the above-described routes, the engine would overfill with oil and overheat due to excess shearing of the oil by the crankshaft.  \\
-Let’s consider the mechanical pump rate if a 1000-mile trip begins with a full oil tank (~ 1 gal) and consumes the entirety in 1000 miles.  The engine begins with ~ 4 oz of oil in the crankcase, and presumably ends with 4 oz of oil in the crankcase, assuming the mechanical pumping rate is set properly.  The mechanical pump emptied the oil tank, thus pumped 128 oz (1 gal) of oil.  Therefore, the oil pump delivers 128 oz oil/1000 mi, or restated, ~ 0.13 oz/mi is fed via the mechanical pump.  Assuming a traveling speed of 60 mph, the pump delivers 0.13 oz/minute.  However, when traveling at a high rate of speed, e.g., 60 mph, we know the pumping rate is increased (500 mi/gal?) and the engine would likely consume oil at twice the previously stated rate, so the rate of delivery may be as high as 0.26 oz/min.  Bear in mind that some of this oil is directed to the primary chain; thus, the engine internals never see this fraction of the pump output.  To provide context to modern Harley engines, which circulate between 1-3 gallons/minute when operated at 3000 rpm, the VL oil pump volume is tiny, i.e., there is no highly pressurized oil, no high flow volumes, no oil stream, just a controlled bleed into the pinion shaft that ultimately escapes from the rod bearings into the engine case. \\
+Let’s consider the mechanical pump rate if a 1000-mile trip begins with a full oil tank (~ 1 gal) and consumes the entirety in 1000 miles. The engine begins with ~ 4 oz of oil in the crankcase, and presumably ends with 4 oz of oil in the crankcase, assuming the mechanical pumping rate is set properly.  The mechanical pump emptied the oil tank, thus pumped 128 oz (1 gal) of oil. Therefore, the oil pump delivers 128 oz oil/1000 mi, or restated, ~ 0.13 oz/mi is fed via the mechanical pump. Assuming a traveling speed of 60 mph, the pump delivers 0.13 oz/minute. However, when traveling at a high rate of speed, e.g., 60 mph, we know the pumping rate is increased (500 mi/gal?) and the engine would likely consume oil at twice the previously stated rate, so the rate of delivery may be as high as 0.26 oz/min. Bear in mind that some of this oil is directed to the primary chain; thus, the engine internals never see this fraction of the pump output. To provide context to modern Harley engines, which circulate between 1-3 gallons/minute when operated at 3000 rpm, the VL oil pump volume is tiny, i.e., there is no highly pressurized oil, no high flow volumes, no oil stream, just a controlled bleed into the pinion shaft that ultimately escapes from the rod bearings into the engine case. \\
 ====== Oil Flow Within the Engine ======
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 ''Figure 9C'' \\
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+''Figure 9D'' \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_pic9d_by_kurt_c_melancon.jpg?direct&800|}} \\
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+''Figure 9E'' \\
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+\\ \\
+The valve body is a steel slug with a screwdriver slot on one end and a 1/8" NPT-27 male thread on the other end. The valve body is relieved on the threaded end to provide a cavity in which the flutter element resides. The body has a 0.074" dia hole drilled axially from the threaded end, the full length of the threaded section. Just below the threads, a cross-drilling intersects the central drilling. The small flutter element, a triangular-shaped piece of stainless steel ~ 0.009” thick, that measures ~ 0.225” corner to corner, is secured/swaged in the cavity where it opens and closes in response to changes in crankcase pressure. \\
+The subject valve was deconstructed to reveal the internal workings by carefully lathe-cutting it apart. The images in Figure 9F show the construction and components of the valve. The threads around the cavity holding the flutter element were carefully lathe-cut off to release the flutter valve. The left image shows the valve body with the threads removed. The top of the stem is the surface the flutter valve seals against to stop oil from passing through the valve on the engine downstroke when descending pistons create positive crankcase pressure. Carefully examining the central portion of the flutter valve revealed a circular pattern where it was sealed against the valve body. On the engine upstroke, when pistons create negative pressure in the crankcase, the flutter valve is sucked off it's seat and any oil residing at, or above, the cross-drilled hole in the valve body is pulled from the cam chest cavity back into the crankcase. \\
+''Figure 9F'' \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_pic9f_by_kurt_c_melancon.jpg?direct&800|}} \\
+\\ \\
+One final comment on this subject is that, according to Steve Slocombe’s VL Restoration Guide, the Gear Case Breather Valve, 504-34, was introduced in early 1934.  In late 1934 after case 9000, a stiffening boss was added to the crankcase around the breather valve which increased case thickness and allowed greater thread depth for mounting (see Figure 9E).  \\
+An additional breathing point of interest concerns the 6 holes at the #2 cam boss and the fit of the cam gear over this large perforated conical boss area.  Figures 10 and 11 provide the reader with a feel for the fit of the gear over the boss as well as the clearance between the gear and cover when installed. Note that the generous concave relief on the gear hub provides substantial clearance around the boss, thus allowing air to flow relatively unimpeded into the 6 exit holes. In contrast, when the cam is fully inserted into the cover, the clearance between the cover and the outermost circumference of the gear is minimal. This tight clearance provides a centrifugal slinger that helps reduce the oil content of air passing through this high shear gap to the cam cover outlet. \\
+''Figure 10'' (L) and ''Figure 11'' (R) \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_pic10_by_kurt_c_melancon.jpg?direct&341|}}
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_pic11_by_kurt_c_melancon.jpg?direct&447|}} \\
+\\ \\
+Another observation of the VL breathing system relates to the various “breather hole areas” relative to one another, i.e., the x-sectional area of holes in the camshafts relative to the area of the 6 holes around the #2 cam boss and the area of the 7/16" dia tube that allows air to exit the cam cover to the primary chain. Table 1 below shows the area of the subject holes. Interestingly, the 2 camshafts introducing air to the cam cover are nearly identical in area to the 7/16" tube that allows air to exit the cam cover. However, the 6 holes at the #2 cam boss, that convey air from the cam cover to the rear chamber, have ~ 2X the area of either the hollow camshafts or the 7/16" tube exiting the cover. It is presumed that the 2X extra area behind the #2 cam exists to both 1) allow the air to slow down and be demisted via #2 cam centrifugal slinger action, and 2) provide full radial access to the 6 holes behind the #2 cam. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_table_1_by_kurt_c_melancon.png?direct&600|}} \\
+\\ \\
+====== VL Crankcase Breather Timing ======
+To this point, the crankcase breather discussion has focused on how air is routed as it moves through the engine and exits. Another consideration relating to the breather system is the timing of the breathing events relative to the crankshaft angle. Making such measurements requires that a timing disk be fit to the pinion shaft so the crankshaft angle can be related to breather opening/closing events. \\
+The procedure to determine breather timing begins with the cam installation process, since we are correlating the camshaft angle (breather hole timing) to the crankshaft angle. Figure 12, from the 1934-36 Rider’s Hand Book, shows the typical appearance of pinion and camshaft gear timing marks when a 4-cam Harley is timed correctly. \\
+''Figure 12'' \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_pic12_by_kurt_c_melancon.jpg?direct&800|}} \\
+\\ \\
+Unlike more recent Harley models, e.g., UL, WL, K/XL, where camshaft timing marks are aligned with the crankshaft positioned at cylinder #1 (rear) TDC, when the VL timing marks align, the crankshaft is positioned 45° BTDC on cylinder #1. It is believed the “modern” cam timing convention (crankshaft at cylinder #1 TDC), was standardized by Harley circa 1937. The significance of the cited difference in crankshaft angle when timing cams is, that when setting up the timing disk on a VL engine, this 45° difference in crankshaft angle must be accounted for. \\
+The factory VL breather timing specifications are referenced to piston position; thus, to correlate breather opening/closing to crankshaft angle, we must start by converting piston position to crankshaft angle.  The factory breather timing specification for a 1936 80 cu in Harley model VLH, from Harley Shop Dope dated Dec 9, 1935, is shown below. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_pic13_by_kurt_c_melancon.png?direct&800|}} \\
+\\ \\
+Table 2 below shows the results of converting the “piston position breather timing” to crankshaft angle. \\
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+\\ \\
+To visually assess VL breather timing requires a clear line of sight to the holes in the cam cover where #1 and #3 camshafts rotate and result in opening/closing events. Such visual observations can occur only if the cam cover is removed from the engine with properly timed cams and pinion gear present. The bullet points below describe the test rig employed and the general procedure for determining the crankshaft angle at which breather opening/closing events occur. \\
+  * Create a shaft on which the pinion gear can be installed and bush the cam cover to support said shaft
+  * Mark the pinion tooth timing mark on the back of the pinion gear, so it can be viewed from the backside, and glue the pinion gear to the new shaft with a drop of super glue
+  * On cam #2 mark the center timing mark on the back of the gear so it can be viewed from the backside, for subsequent alignment with the pinion gear
+  * In the right engine case, properly mesh the pinion gear/shaft and camshafts, and install the cam cover
+  * Invert the crankcase so the cam cover is at the bottom and carefully lift the crankcase to transfer the properly timed cams and pinion gear/shaft to the cam cover.
+  * Affix a timing disk to the pinion shaft and as the pinion shaft is rotated, record the crankshaft angle at which the breather holes in the camshafts open and close as they pass by their complementary holes in the cam cover.
+The images below show the setup used to record breather timing opening/closing events. Recall from the discussion above for VL engines, that cam timing/installation occurs with the crankshaft positioned 45° BTDC cylinder #1, which is a total of 90° BTDC on cylinder #2 (45°cylinder separation + VL cam timing done 45° BTDC cylinder #1 = 90°). When the backside gear markings of the pinion shaft and #2 cam are aligned, the timing disk pointer is set to 90° BTDC on cylinder #2, which provides the proper reference to the factory breather timing given for cylinder #2. \\
+''Figure 14'' \\
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+\\ \\
+''Figure 16'' \\
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+The timing disk was rotated in the direction of engine operation and the crankshaft angle at which opening/closing events occur was recorded. Table 3 shows the factory-specified breather timing and breather timing results recorded with the test fixture.  \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:1935_harley_vl_oiling-breathing_table_3_by_kurt_c_melancon.png?direct&400|}} \\
+\\ \\
+The breather timing results agree very favorably with the factory specifications, especially in light of the factory specification allowing a difference in piston position of + 1/8". One other consideration relating to this test is the difficulty in visually determining exactly when the breather valve opening and closing occur, because the overlap of 2 identical circles occurring down a small dark hole makes it very difficult to define the exact instant overlap begins and ends, even with excellent illumination. \\
+To the best of this author's ability, the above summary provides an accurate description of the entire oil path within the VL engine from the point of oil entry at the cam cover to the various points where oil leaves the engine.  Likewise, the subject of the breather system and timing thereof have been described in their entirety. None of the information recited here is new and has been known since 1935. Nevertheless, this author found it challenging to uncover such information, so he opted to document his findings as he explored the subject systems. \\
+\\
+Kurt

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