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techtalk:evo:engctl01 [2024/01/03 03:06] – hippysmacktechtalk:evo:engctl01 [2024/07/21 02:26] (current) – [Manually Trigger The Ignition Control Module For Testing Spark] ixl2relax
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-(Note: the 1998-2003 Sport model uses the same CPS & Connector as the 1994-1997 models. The slotted rotor cup is different on the Sport models, having additional slots to allow for the single-fire ignition. Note also, with the new ICM module and the addition of a MAP Sensor, the power to the Cam Position Sensor is 5v (as to the MAP Sensor) for the 1998-2003 'S' models.)+(Note: the 1998-2003 Sport model uses the same CPS & Connector as the 1994-1997 models. The slotted rotor cup is different on the Sport models, having additional slots to allow for the single-fire ignition. Note also, with the new ICM module and the addition of a MAP Sensor, the power to the Cam Position Sensor is 5v (5v also to the MAP Sensor) for the 1998-2003 'S' models.)
  
 **Testing the ability of the ICM to sense the Cam Rotor & fire the Coil**\\ **Testing the ability of the ICM to sense the Cam Rotor & fire the Coil**\\
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 ^ Year Model ^ Use/Type HD Plug ^ Alt. Plug Brand/Number ^ Ignition Type Spark Gap ^ ^ ^ Year Model ^ Use/Type HD Plug ^ Alt. Plug Brand/Number ^ Ignition Type Spark Gap ^ ^
 |1986-2016 |HD 6R12 (resistor type)| Autolite 4164\\ Bosch YR6LDE\\ Champion RA8HC\\ NGK DCPR7E\\ Screamin Eagle EX12S\\ |Electronic Ign. 0.038-0.043"\\ \\ \\ 12mmX1.25mm Threads - 12-18 ftlbs torque\\ Wrench = 5/8" or 16mm ||    |1986-2016 |HD 6R12 (resistor type)| Autolite 4164\\ Bosch YR6LDE\\ Champion RA8HC\\ NGK DCPR7E\\ Screamin Eagle EX12S\\ |Electronic Ign. 0.038-0.043"\\ \\ \\ 12mmX1.25mm Threads - 12-18 ftlbs torque\\ Wrench = 5/8" or 16mm ||   
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 +===== FYI: Buell Ignition Modules =====
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 +Note: (From aswracing in [[https://www.xlforum.net/forum/buell-motorcycle-forum/buell-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/203594-buell-s1-m2-dyna-2000-7-pin-to-8-pin-wiring-schematic#post4558129|this post on the xlforum]])
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 +The Buell X1 was only made from 1999-2002. It is EFI based, with a single ECM (engine control module) that controls both spark and fueling. No separate ignition module at all. The same is true for all 1999-2002 Buell S3 models. The parts books refer to the ECM as a "control module".
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 +The 2001-2002 ignition module found on the M2 is an actual ignition module. Since the M2 is carbureted, the module provides control only of the spark advance but no control of fueling. Although it has a similar appearance to the ECM found on 1999-2002 X1 & S3 models, the part number is different and the parts books refer to it as an "ignition module". This 2001-2002 M2 ignition module is also a bastard, not found on any other Harley or Buell, and no aftermarket replacements available for it. The only high performance version of it I've ever seen was the Buell Pro-Series version which was offered back in the day. It's an issue when someone comes to us for a performance package for a 2001-2002 M2. We basically have to tell him to chuck it and wire in a nose cone module.
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 +The other carbureted Buell models (1995-1996 S2, 1996-1998 S1/S1W, 1997-2000 M2, and 1997-1998 S3) all came with 8-pin modules, except 49-state 1995 S2's, which came with 7-pin modules. These are similar to the XL version ignition modules.
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 +There's an adapter available to connect an 8-pin module to a 7-pin bike, and another one available to go the other direction, i.e. a 7-pin module to an 8-pin bike.
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