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 ====== EVO: Primary Drive & Clutch ====== ====== EVO: Primary Drive & Clutch ======
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 The tension on the primary chain, rotating between the engine sprocket & the clutch sprocket, is controlled by an adjustable 'shoe'. This nylon shoe rides against the bottom length of the chain and reduces the slack as the upper length of the chain transfers engine power. Too little slack in the chain and it will bind in its rotation. Too much slack and the chain will slap as the engine decelerates and then accelerates. The tension on the primary chain, rotating between the engine sprocket & the clutch sprocket, is controlled by an adjustable 'shoe'. This nylon shoe rides against the bottom length of the chain and reduces the slack as the upper length of the chain transfers engine power. Too little slack in the chain and it will bind in its rotation. Too much slack and the chain will slap as the engine decelerates and then accelerates.
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-\\  ====== Primary Cover Differences ====== 
  
-</code>+====== Primary Cover Differences ======
  
-The 1986-1990 cover uses a round, screw-in, primary chain inspection cover with a 'chevy symbol' indentation to unscrew it. +The 1986-1990 cover uses a round, screw-in, primary chain inspection cover with a 'chevy symbol' indentation to unscrew it. It also used a relatively small, round, screw-in clutch adjustment cover, which also used the 'chevy symbol' tool.
-It also used a relatively small, round, screw-in clutch adjustment cover, which also used the 'chevy symbol' tool.+
  
-On the 1991-1993 cover, the primary chain inspection cover is also round, but is mounted with two screws. +On the 1991-1993 cover, the primary chain inspection cover is also round, but is mounted with two screws. Likewise, the small clutch adjustment cover is round and mounted by two screws.
-Likewise, the small clutch adjustment cover is round and mounted by two screws.+
  
-On the 1994-2003 cover, the primary chain inspection cover is still round using two screws to mount it. +On the 1994-2003 cover, the primary chain inspection cover is still round using two screws to mount it. But, the clutch adjustment cover is the large Derby Cover (4-bolt) that allowed the Ball&Ramp assembly to be removed without removing the cover. The 'bump' of the cover where the starter is mounted is flat-topped.
-But, the clutch adjustment cover is the large Derby Cover (4-bolt) that allowed the Ball&Ramp assembly to be removed without removing the cover. The 'bump' of the cover where the starter is mounted is flat-topped.+
  
 Note: The primary cover from '94-'03 can be retro fitted back to 1991-93 models, but the Ball&Ramp assembly must be changed to the '94-'03 version. As mentioned above, the '94-'03 models use the large derby cover which will also be needed. The internal clutch parts are the same back to 1991 and the clutch cables are compatible (but need to be checked for length). The primary cover gasket is the same for 1991-2003 models.((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/106167-primary-cover-swap?t=952523)) Note: The primary cover from '94-'03 can be retro fitted back to 1991-93 models, but the Ball&Ramp assembly must be changed to the '94-'03 version. As mentioned above, the '94-'03 models use the large derby cover which will also be needed. The internal clutch parts are the same back to 1991 and the clutch cables are compatible (but need to be checked for length). The primary cover gasket is the same for 1991-2003 models.((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/106167-primary-cover-swap?t=952523))
  
-With the Rubbermount models, starting in 2004-later, the cover has a rectangular primary chain inspection cover, held in place by two screws. The clutch adjustment cover is the large Derby Cover, but it is mounted with 6 bolts. The 'bump' of the cover where the starter is mounted is rounded at the top. +With the Rubbermount models, starting in 2004-later, the cover has a rectangular primary chain inspection cover, held in place by two screws. The clutch adjustment cover is the large Derby Cover, but it is mounted with 6 bolts. The 'bump' of the cover where the starter is mounted is rounded at the top. The polished covers on the 2004-2005 models have the same part number, 25430-04, but the 2006-later engines use part number 25430-06. __IMPORTANT NOTE:__ The 2004-2006 covers may all have the same Internal Casting # 34951-04 which can be confusing, because the shifter shaft is different in 2006-later. See this [[:techtalk:evo:transfinal04#shifter_assembly|Transmission section of the Sportsterpedia for details]].
-The polished covers on the 2004-2005 models have the same part number, 25430-04, but the 2006-later engines use part number 25430-06. +
-__IMPORTANT NOTE:__ The 2004-2006 covers may all have the same Internal Casting # 34951-04 which can be confusing, because the shifter shaft is different in 2006-later. +
-See this [[:techtalk:evo:transfinal04#shifter_assembly|Transmission section of the Sportsterpedia for details]].+
  
 Over the years, the primary cover has been available in different finishes (polished Aluminum, rough Aluminum, Chrome, Black, etc.) with different part numbers for those variations. Over the years, the primary cover has been available in different finishes (polished Aluminum, rough Aluminum, Chrome, Black, etc.) with different part numbers for those variations.
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 \\  ====== Quad-Ring - Clutch Inspection Cover ====== \\  ====== Quad-Ring - Clutch Inspection Cover ======
  
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-From 1994-later the Clutch Inspection Cover (AKA: Derby Cover) has had a sealing ring, often referred to as the Quad-Ring. It is circular, but its cross-section profile is not round like an o-ring, but rather four-sided flat. The quad-ring P/N is 25463-94A. +From 1994-later the Clutch Inspection Cover (AKA: Derby Cover) has had a sealing ring, often referred to as the Quad-Ring. It is circular, but its cross-section profile is not round like an o-ring, but rather four-sided flat. The quad-ring P/N is 25463-94A. See discussion at [[https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/183554-clutch-cover-gasket?t=1974683|https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/183554-clutch-cover-gasket?t=1974683]]
-See discussion at [[https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/183554-clutch-cover-gasket?t=1974683|https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/183554-clutch-cover-gasket?t=1974683]]+
  
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-\\  ====== Primary Chain - Tensioner ====== 
  
-</code>+\\  ====== Primary Chain - Tensioner ======
  
 **Part Numbers ** **Part Numbers **
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 |Primary Chain Adjuster - 1986-1990 - Parts Obsolete \\ Primary Chain Adjuster - 1991-2003 - 39975-90A (upgrade in 2001+) \\ Primary Chain Adjuster - 2004-later — uses 40039-02C| |Primary Chain Adjuster - 1986-1990 - Parts Obsolete \\ Primary Chain Adjuster - 1991-2003 - 39975-90A (upgrade in 2001+) \\ Primary Chain Adjuster - 2004-later — uses 40039-02C|
  
-|**1986-90 Primary Chain Tensioner Parts** \\  \\ 39973-86 - Steel Carrier Plate \\ 40018-86 - Pivot Stud \\ 40019-86 - Spring for Tension \\ 39966-80 - Pad against Chain \\ 3250 ——- Threaded Stud - for Adjustment|{{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primary_chain_tensioner_spring_installed_by_yochstein.jpg?direct&320}}((photo by Yochstein of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/184451-primary-chain-adjuster-spring-install?threadid=1980020))  |+|**1986-90 Primary Chain Tensioner Parts** \\  \\ 39973-86 - Steel Carrier Plate \\ 40018-86 - Pivot Stud \\ 40019-86 - Spring for Tension \\ 39966-80 - Pad against Chain \\ 3250 ——- Threaded Stud - for Adjustment|{{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primary_chain_tensioner_spring_installed_by_yochstein.jpg?direct&320|primary_chain_tensioner_spring_installed_by_yochstein.jpg}}((photo by Yochstein of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/184451-primary-chain-adjuster-spring-install?threadid=1980020))    |
  
 |  91-later XLH Primary Chain Tensioner - Manually Adjustable ((photo by Gcram399 - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/154758-primary-side-tear-down?t=1661362 & GophersAndCheese - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/83129-ragerbuilt-jockey-shift-for-04?t=619960)) </sup>    | |  91-later XLH Primary Chain Tensioner - Manually Adjustable ((photo by Gcram399 - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/154758-primary-side-tear-down?t=1661362 & GophersAndCheese - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/83129-ragerbuilt-jockey-shift-for-04?t=619960)) </sup>    |
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-|{{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primarychainadjuster-compoldnew.jpg}}|  {{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primarychainadjuster-nut-7804.jpg?200}} \\ 1991-later Sportsters \\ Primary Chain Adjuster Nut \\ **P/N 7804**   \\ This nut has a special \\ extended nylon face((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/111331-primary-adjuster-leak?t=1047928))  which \\ seals against the Primary Cover \\  \\ **TO PREVENT LEAKS** \\ Avoid Common Nylon-insert Nuts  |+|{{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primarychainadjuster-compoldnew.jpg|primarychainadjuster-compoldnew.jpg}}|  {{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primarychainadjuster-nut-7804.jpg?200|primarychainadjuster-nut-7804.jpg}} \\ 1991-later Sportsters \\ Primary Chain Adjuster Nut \\ **P/N 7804**   \\ This nut has a special \\ extended nylon face((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/111331-primary-adjuster-leak?t=1047928))  which \\ seals against the Primary Cover \\  \\ **TO PREVENT LEAKS** \\ Avoid Common Nylon-insert Nuts  |
 |  Upgrade 39975-90A should be used in place of 1991-2000 stock Chain Tensioner. \\ 2001-2003 models had the -90A part as factory OEM stock. ((photo by aswracing - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/150329-what-stator-rotor-brand?t=1627892)) </sup>    | ::: | |  Upgrade 39975-90A should be used in place of 1991-2000 stock Chain Tensioner. \\ 2001-2003 models had the -90A part as factory OEM stock. ((photo by aswracing - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/150329-what-stator-rotor-brand?t=1627892)) </sup>    | ::: |
  
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 ^Vertical Play in Upper Primary Chain^^|Although the 1986-1990 models have a rotational mount for the \\ primary chain shoe and the 1991-later models use a fixed \\ T-mount, the tension adjustment for all models accomplishes \\ the same goal and is performed in the same way.| ^Vertical Play in Upper Primary Chain^^|Although the 1986-1990 models have a rotational mount for the \\ primary chain shoe and the 1991-later models use a fixed \\ T-mount, the tension adjustment for all models accomplishes \\ the same goal and is performed in the same way.|
-|  All \\ Years  | ::: ^Cold Adj^Hot Adj| +|  All \\ Years  ^Cold Adj^Hot Adj| | 
-| ::: |3/8" to 1/2"| ::: |1/4" to 3/8"|+| ::: | ::: |3/8" to 1/2"|1/4" to 3/8"|
  
 The adjustment of the chain tension is made using the Primary Chain Adjuster, mounted to the bottom of the Primary Cover. The adjuster mounting bolt extends through the Primary Cover to allow adjusting the tension without removing the cover. The adjuster bolt has a lock nut to keep the adjustment from changing. The adjuster has a nylon shoe atop it that rides against the loose side of the primary chain to take up excess slack. By loose side is meant the bottom path of the chain because the upper chain path is the one that transmits power to the clutch/transmission when accelerating. When decelerating in gear, the bottom side chain path is tight against the shoe because the engine is braking the bike motion thru the clutch/transmission. The adjustment of the chain tension is made using the Primary Chain Adjuster, mounted to the bottom of the Primary Cover. The adjuster mounting bolt extends through the Primary Cover to allow adjusting the tension without removing the cover. The adjuster bolt has a lock nut to keep the adjustment from changing. The adjuster has a nylon shoe atop it that rides against the loose side of the primary chain to take up excess slack. By loose side is meant the bottom path of the chain because the upper chain path is the one that transmits power to the clutch/transmission when accelerating. When decelerating in gear, the bottom side chain path is tight against the shoe because the engine is braking the bike motion thru the clutch/transmission.
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 Buy a primary locking tool (bar) or use a closed 4" BRASS hinge as a wedge between the sprockets. (Place the wedge so as not to put pressure on the shifter shaft) \\ There are also several 4 and 5 speed [[:techtalk:ref:tools116#engine_and_clutch_sprocket_locking_tools|commercial & DIY primary locking tool examples]] in the tool section. Buy a primary locking tool (bar) or use a closed 4" BRASS hinge as a wedge between the sprockets. (Place the wedge so as not to put pressure on the shifter shaft) \\ There are also several 4 and 5 speed [[:techtalk:ref:tools116#engine_and_clutch_sprocket_locking_tools|commercial & DIY primary locking tool examples]] in the tool section.
  
- \\ {{:techtalk:ref:tools:primary-brasshinge-lock.jpg?350}}((photo by Scuba10jdl (2002 883>1250) https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/32092-bottom-end-noise-and-the-primary-drive-sprocket-nut?t=53268 - Post#98)) {{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primary-nuts.jpg?500}}((photo by IXL2Relax - 1994 883>1200))+ \\ {{:techtalk:ref:tools:primary-brasshinge-lock.jpg?350|primary-brasshinge-lock.jpg}}((photo by Scuba10jdl (2002 883>1250) https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/32092-bottom-end-noise-and-the-primary-drive-sprocket-nut?t=53268 - Post#98)) {{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:primary-nuts.jpg?500|primary-nuts.jpg}}((photo by IXL2Relax - 1994 883>1200))
  
 ====== Removing the Primary Drive ====== ====== Removing the Primary Drive ======
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 Loosen the nuts / bolts holding the engine sprocket and clutch basket on. \\ The engine sprocket has right hand threads and the clutch basket has left hand threads. \\ A reversible impact wrench has been used successfully to remove both the engine sprocket and the clutch basket nut. \\ However, it's been debatable whether you can accurately install them back to proper torque without using a torque wrench instead. \\ Whichever way you remove them, use regular six-sided sockets. \\ They are less likely to slip and round off the edges of the nuts. Impact-type sockets are likely too thick to fit. Loosen the nuts / bolts holding the engine sprocket and clutch basket on. \\ The engine sprocket has right hand threads and the clutch basket has left hand threads. \\ A reversible impact wrench has been used successfully to remove both the engine sprocket and the clutch basket nut. \\ However, it's been debatable whether you can accurately install them back to proper torque without using a torque wrench instead. \\ Whichever way you remove them, use regular six-sided sockets. \\ They are less likely to slip and round off the edges of the nuts. Impact-type sockets are likely too thick to fit.
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:tools:engine_sprocket_removal_-_installation_by_tigercreek.jpg?direct&300}}((photo by tigercreek of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/169896-2000-883-stator-replacement?t=1823130)) {{:techtalk:ref:tools:clutch_nut_removal_by_tigercreek.jpg?direct&300}}((photo by tigercreek of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/169896-2000-883-stator-replacement?t=1823130))+{{:techtalk:ref:tools:engine_sprocket_removal_-_installation_by_tigercreek.jpg?direct&300|engine_sprocket_removal_-_installation_by_tigercreek.jpg}}((photo by tigercreek of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/169896-2000-883-stator-replacement?t=1823130)) {{:techtalk:ref:tools:clutch_nut_removal_by_tigercreek.jpg?direct&300|clutch_nut_removal_by_tigercreek.jpg}}((photo by tigercreek of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/169896-2000-883-stator-replacement?t=1823130))
  
 Normally when loosening or tightening these nuts, you will need to **lock the hub & sprocket**  - Do not wedge the chain. \\ You can buy a primary locking tool (bar) or use a closed 4" BRASS hinge as a wedge. Place the wedge so as not to put pressure on the shifter shaft \\ There are also several 4 and 5 speed [[:techtalk:ref:tools116#engine_and_clutch_sprocket_locking_tools|primary locking tool examples]] in the tool section. \\ Normally when loosening or tightening these nuts, you will need to **lock the hub & sprocket**  - Do not wedge the chain. \\ You can buy a primary locking tool (bar) or use a closed 4" BRASS hinge as a wedge. Place the wedge so as not to put pressure on the shifter shaft \\ There are also several 4 and 5 speed [[:techtalk:ref:tools116#engine_and_clutch_sprocket_locking_tools|primary locking tool examples]] in the tool section. \\
 A closed 4" BRASS hinge also works well to lock the sprockets and then you can use a pull bar and sockets / socket wrench. A closed 4" BRASS hinge also works well to lock the sprockets and then you can use a pull bar and sockets / socket wrench.
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:tools:primary-brasshinge-lock.jpg?300}}((photo by Scuba10jdl (2002 883>1250) https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/32092-bottom-end-noise-and-the-primary-drive-sprocket-nut?t=53268 - Post#98))+{{:techtalk:ref:tools:primary-brasshinge-lock.jpg?300|primary-brasshinge-lock.jpg}}((photo by Scuba10jdl (2002 883>1250) https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/32092-bottom-end-noise-and-the-primary-drive-sprocket-nut?t=53268 - Post#98))
  
 The threads should have previously been assembled with red Loctite. \\ Using a propane torch (on the nut or bolt only) will heat up and melt / soften the Loctite somewhat to make removal easier. \\ Remove both fasteners holding them on before attempting to remove either. \\ Big socket wrenches or pullbars give you a lot more leverage to make removing the fasteners less strenuous. The threads should have previously been assembled with red Loctite. \\ Using a propane torch (on the nut or bolt only) will heat up and melt / soften the Loctite somewhat to make removal easier. \\ Remove both fasteners holding them on before attempting to remove either. \\ Big socket wrenches or pullbars give you a lot more leverage to make removing the fasteners less strenuous.
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 **Note**: \\ The engine sprocket has right hand threads (lefty loosy-righty tighty) \\ The clutch basket has left hand threads (lefty tighty-righty loosy) \\ The engine sprocket and clutch hub should be removed as one unit. \\ Both have to come out together to some point since the chain will tighten and neither will budge at that point. \\ Once they are both moved out far enough, you may be able to get one or the other to come off without the other. \\ Once the sprocket and clutch basket is removed, you can gain access to the mounting screws for the stator. **Note**: \\ The engine sprocket has right hand threads (lefty loosy-righty tighty) \\ The clutch basket has left hand threads (lefty tighty-righty loosy) \\ The engine sprocket and clutch hub should be removed as one unit. \\ Both have to come out together to some point since the chain will tighten and neither will budge at that point. \\ Once they are both moved out far enough, you may be able to get one or the other to come off without the other. \\ Once the sprocket and clutch basket is removed, you can gain access to the mounting screws for the stator.
  
-{{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:removing_engine_sprocket_and_clutch_hub_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300}}((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:removing_engine_sprocket_and_clutch_hub_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300}}((photo by Hippysmack))+{{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:removing_engine_sprocket_and_clutch_hub_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|removing_engine_sprocket_and_clutch_hub_1_by_hippysmack.jpg}}((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:evo:priclutch:removing_engine_sprocket_and_clutch_hub_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|removing_engine_sprocket_and_clutch_hub_2_by_hippysmack.jpg}}((photo by Hippysmack))
  
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