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 ====== Brass Accents For Your Bike ====== ====== Brass Accents For Your Bike ======
-===== Brass Oil Dipstick ===== 
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-Each one is custom made by [[http://custom-metal.de/|Custom-Metal]] in Germany ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1767766)) 
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-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_4_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_5_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_6_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}| 
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-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_1_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_2_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_3_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}| 
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 ===== Brass Headlight Bucket ===== ===== Brass Headlight Bucket =====
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 With some cutting and grinding, it turned out to be sized just right for the stock Harley headlight and its rubber mounting ring. \\  With some cutting and grinding, it turned out to be sized just right for the stock Harley headlight and its rubber mounting ring. \\ 
 A few light coats of Duragloss candy copper paint (translucent) and a couple coats of clear was used on the OEM headlight rims. \\ Wiring is hidden under the tank. \\  A few light coats of Duragloss candy copper paint (translucent) and a couple coats of clear was used on the OEM headlight rims. \\ Wiring is hidden under the tank. \\ 
-The mounting bracket was made out of some scrap billet. ((photos by Dooce of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1709165))+The mounting bracket was made out of some scrap billet. ((photos by Dooce of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/159429-brass-headlight-diy-for-3?t=1709165))
  
 |{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_headlight_bucket_1_by_dooce.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_headlight_bucket_2_by_dooce.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_headlight_bucket_3_by_dooce.jpg?direct&300|}}| |{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_headlight_bucket_1_by_dooce.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_headlight_bucket_2_by_dooce.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_headlight_bucket_3_by_dooce.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-===== Brass Brake Pedal Cover ===== +===== Hand Grips ===== 
-This particular brass cover is made by Kijima in Tokyo. \\ +Shotgun shell inside the grips. ((photo by Stairman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-accessories/195309-those-little-ways-to-personalize-your-bike/page2?t=2071635&highlight=heel+toe&page=2)) \\ 
-It was bought from [[https://japan.webike.net/|Webike.net]] in Yokohama. ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1714701)) \\ +|{{:techtalk:ref:body:shotgun_shell_on_end_grips_by_stairman.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_1_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|+
  
-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_2_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_3_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_4_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}| +===== Air Cleaner ===== 
- +This is a NRHS round AC with a brass center added((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/111555-air-cleaner-porn/page3?t=1051311&page=3)) \\ 
-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_5_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_6_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_7_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|+|{{:techtalk:ref:body:nrhs_round_ac_with_brass_center_added_1_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:nrhs_round_ac_with_brass_center_added_2_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:nrhs_round_ac_with_brass_center_added_3_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|
  
 ===== Shifter Peg ===== ===== Shifter Peg =====
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 50bmg shifter: \\ 50bmg shifter: \\
-The shoulder of the casing was cut off with a bolt epoxied into it. ((photos by DaytonaSportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1182952&page=3)) \\+The shoulder of the casing was cut off with a bolt epoxied into it. ((photos by DaytonaSportster of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-photos-videos/120968-lets-see-the-brass/page3?t=1182952&page=3)) \\
  
 |{{:techtalk:ref:body:shifter_ped_mod_1_by_daytonasportster.png?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:shifter_ped_mod_2_by_daytonasportster.png?direct&300|}}| |{{:techtalk:ref:body:shifter_ped_mod_1_by_daytonasportster.png?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:shifter_ped_mod_2_by_daytonasportster.png?direct&300|}}|
-===== Air Cleaner ===== 
  
-This is a NRHS round AC with a brass center added. ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1051311&page=3)) \\ +===== Brass Brake Pedal Cover ===== 
-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:nrhs_round_ac_with_brass_center_added_1_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:nrhs_round_ac_with_brass_center_added_2_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:nrhs_round_ac_with_brass_center_added_3_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|+This particular brass cover is made by Kijima in Tokyo. \\ 
 +It was bought from [[https://japan.webike.net/|Webike.net]] in Yokohama. ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-accessories/159832-brass-brake-pedal-cover?t=1714701)) \\ 
 +|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_1_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|
  
-===== Hand Grips ===== +|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_2_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_3_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_4_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}| 
-Shotgun shell inside the grips. ((photo by Stairman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071635&highlight=heel+toe&page=2)) \\ + 
-|{{:techtalk:ref:body:shotgun_shell_on_end_grips_by_stairman.jpg?direct&300|}}|+|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_5_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_6_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_brake_pedal_cover_7_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}| 
 + 
 +===== Brake Calipers ===== 
 +These .45 cal brass shells fit over the 12 point bolts on the brake caliper with a little silicone to keep them on\\ 
 +{{:techtalk:ref:body:bolt_covers-1_from_45_cal_shells_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/198590-brake-caliper-socket-cap-idea/page2?t=2075411&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:bolt_covers-2_from_45_cal_shells_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/198590-brake-caliper-socket-cap-idea/page2?t=2075411&page=2)) \\
  
 ===== Rocker Box ===== ===== Rocker Box =====
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 The back of the vise worked well. \\ The back of the vise worked well. \\
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_1_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5)) +{{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_1_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5)) 
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_2_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_3_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_4_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5))+{{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_2_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_3_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_4_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5))
  
 The inside bends ends had to be beveled back some to make room to shove it down the hole. \\ The inside bends ends had to be beveled back some to make room to shove it down the hole. \\
 Once it's bent properly, it can be installed with a little RTV silicon on the sides to help keep it in place. \\ Once it's bent properly, it can be installed with a little RTV silicon on the sides to help keep it in place. \\
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_5_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_6_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_7_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860072&page=5))+{{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_5_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_6_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:rocker_box_brass_mesh_accent_7_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by anachris of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-project/173296-personalized-drive-pulley-cover/page5?t=1860072&page=5))
  
 ===== Ignition Cover ===== ===== Ignition Cover =====
- +{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_ignition_cover_1_by_aussiegazza.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by AussiGazza of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/87710-aussiegazzas-rebuild/page10?t=692835&page=10)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_ignition_cover_2_by_aussiegazza.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by AussiGazza of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/87710-aussiegazzas-rebuild/page10?t=692835&page=10)) \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_ignition_cover_1_by_aussiegazza.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by AussiGazza of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=692835&page=10)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_ignition_cover_2_by_aussiegazza.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by AussiGazza of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=692835&page=10)) \\+
  
 ===== Starter ===== ===== Starter =====
 A small tubing cutter was used to shorten .45 cal shells with some high temp silicone to glue them over the starter nuts. \\ A small tubing cutter was used to shorten .45 cal shells with some high temp silicone to glue them over the starter nuts. \\
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_1_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075411&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_2_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075411&page=3)){{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_3_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075411&page=3)){{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_4_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075411&page=3)) \\+{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_1_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/198590-brake-caliper-socket-cap-idea/page3?t=2075411&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_2_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/198590-brake-caliper-socket-cap-idea/page3?t=2075411&page=3)){{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_3_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/198590-brake-caliper-socket-cap-idea/page3?t=2075411&page=3)){{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_starter_bolt_covers_4_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/198590-brake-caliper-socket-cap-idea/page3?t=2075411&page=3)) \\ 
 ===== Oil Tank ===== ===== Oil Tank =====
-This brass oil tank was made from two 1939 WW2 British anti aircraft shells,45 pounders. ((reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) \\+This brass oil tank was made from two 1939 WW2 British anti aircraft shells,45 pounders. ((reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) \\
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_1_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_2_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_3_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) \\+{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_1_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_2_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_3_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) \\ 
 + 
 +{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_4_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_5_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_6_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_7_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/69525-just-finished-my-brass-oil-tank-with-pics?t=467537)) \\ 
 + 
 +===== Brass Oil Dipstick ===== 
 + 
 +Each one is custom made by [[http://custom-metal.de/|Custom-Metal]] in Germany ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/164396-custom-metal-brass-oil-cap-dipstick?t=1767766)) 
 + 
 +|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_4_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_5_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_6_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}| 
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 +|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_1_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_2_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:body:xl_brass_dipstick_3_by_folkie.jpg?direct&300|}}|
  
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_4_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_5_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_6_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:brass_oil_tank_7_by_reblu.png?direct&200|}} ((photo by reblu of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=467537)) \\ 
  
-===== Brake Calipers ===== 
-These .45 cal brass shells fit over the 12 point bolts on the brake caliper with a little silicone to keep them on. \\ 
-{{:techtalk:ref:body:bolt_covers-1_from_45_cal_shells_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075411&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ref:body:bolt_covers-2_from_45_cal_shells_by_blackbikedave.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by BlackBikeDave of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075411&page=2)) \\